Manley Coat of ArmsProject Background

I discovered the indomitable Helen Manley when I contacted her on a genealogy message board, Genforum. We began working together early in the 1990s, collaborating on our Manley/Manly family research. She the more careful, experienced researcher sharing her experience and guiding me along the path of solid, documented research. I was the more, “but, logic dictates this HAS to be the answer”! researcher. With her tutelage I learned to use theory as a springboard followed by extensive source documentation. Conjecture and theory are wonderful and useful when making “educated guesses”, but require documentation for support.

Helen and I were doubly blessed when we discovered Alan and Keith.  Both are in the UK and are brilliant men and researchers, who know how to scour records, “haunt” cemeteries and have even been known to resort to using wives and pets to charm information and access from even the most reluctant of Vicars!

An Idea Takes Seed

The seedling for our DNA project began in 1998 when Alan and Keith Manley began sharing information on an anthropological project being carried out in the UK.  The Poulton Research Project was begun in 1995.  Part of this project was an undertaking of DNA research on what was believed to be the remains of Sir Nicholas Manley (circa 1500s).

The Poulton researchers tested males of Manley descent across the UK in an attempt to solidify the DNA results.  Sadly Alan and Keith were unable to join as they were unaware of the project until the deadline had passed.

The Seed Takes Root

By 1999 the thought of beginning our own DNA project had taken firm root.   The general concerns; where would DNA samples be tested, what would and would not be tested for, what would be done with the samples once results were received, the privacy of potential project members and of course, the expense for those who would like to join.

After thoroughly researching the resources available to us we selected Family Tree Dna to conduct our surname project.  Alan and I agreed to share the duties as volunteer project administrators and we were off. Our first kits were returned in 2003, growing from 2 members in August to 9 members in October of that year. When our project began the only testing available to us was the paternal “Y” test and all members joined through FtDna. Our project now includes the original “Y” study along with MtDna and Family Finder members. While the majority of our members have joined through FtDna, we do have and welcome members who have joined through the National Geographic Genographic Project and Oxford Ancestors, as well as other, newer testing sites.

The Seedling Has Grown

We have now grown to 114 members (as of July 2016), inclusive of all test types.  DNA testing can not provide all the answers. It has proven valuable in many ways, providing previously unknown connections and providing a time frame in which to search for our common ancestors. Imagine our surprise and delight to find that Helen, my longtime friend and tutor is in fact a genetic match, a proven genetic “cousin”, with a common ancestor shared between us circa 1700!  With the DNA results we have been able to answer some of the many, many questions we all share regarding those elusive ancestors. We still have a long way to go.

Current Project Members include the following statistics:

Statistic Type Count
Big Y 1
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 8
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 20
DISTINCT Y-DNA Confirmed Haplogroups 12
DISTINCT Y-DNA Predicted Haplogroups 0
Family Finder 32
Maternal Ancestor Information 53
mtDNA 26
mtDNA Full Sequence 12
mtDNA Plus 20
mtDNA Subgroups 4
Paternal Ancestor Information 73
Predicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 3
Total Members 114
Unpredicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 0
Unreturned Kits 6
Y-DNA Deep Clade (After 2008) 7
Y-DNA Deep Clade (Prior to 2008) 5
Y-DNA Subgroups 9
Y-DNA111 10
Y-DNA12 92
Y-DNA25 74
Y-DNA37 64
Y-DNA67 31

Our project goals are dedicated to achieving the following:

Members using good, solid research in order to establish family lines, providing assistance to one another and sharing as much information as possible.
We will use the DNA results to support this research, establish connections, determining the distances between them.
Determine which of the many surname variants are in fact part of one “genetic” family.
Work towards reconnecting the “branches” globally.

Testing information for potential members:

If you are a descendant of one of the surnames shown on our surname page or are of the Maule, Mole clans and are interested in joining our project, please visit the link below to see what tests you have available to you and the expense for each.
Tests begin at $99.00 and increases with the number of markers and/or test type. Click here to see a list of products provided by FtDna. Prospective testers receive a discount when joining through an existing project. We do strongly encourage all “Y” project members to test to a minimum of 25 markers, as well as encouraging members who previously tested the original 12 markers to upgrade to at least 25 if at all possible.

It is also important for all “y” members to remember to upload your results to Y Search in order to find possible matches tested outside our group.

All members and potential members must realize that this is a joint effort and, as such, it is a joint project, belonging to all involved.  Member input, suggestions and inspiration have always and will always be encouraged and welcomed.  Group decisions are made by the feedback of group members.  It is also important for members to encourage others to join and participate.  We never know where that next “missing link” will be discovered!  If you or others may be interested in joining our group, please use this link to join. Manley Family Dna Project

Our group also works in conjunction with the Manley project found on Ancestry.com in the hopes of assisting one another make new discoveries and unearth new links.

Ancestor’s Map, showing locations of project members’ earliest KNOWN ancestor.

Please click the link to visit our “Y” results page on Famiy Tree DNA, with the Ancestor’s map.  The Ancestor’s map is located under the results chart.

Joining the Project

To join or contribute to our project, please visit the project on FamilyTreeDNA.  Why not join with a family member and share the cost of a test?

All tests ordered as a member of a group receive the group discount.

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I’d like to personally invite you to visit our family website,  Cavaliers & Cossacks.

This site has just about everything possible in one genealogy site.  I welcome contributions and provide credit where due from those who are interested in sharing.
~ Cathy Manly Sockol, Manley DNA Project Administrator